Posts by I am a Bible Student

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JW to be banned in Russia soon?

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i saw this on jw.org today:.

Walking a thin line - Resigning Elder

by Sanchy in

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warning of a long boring post ahead.

i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.

i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.

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You might find the Beroean Pickets website very useful and supportive as well. meletivivlon.com.

What helped open my eyes was when my husband asked how many children Jesus would allow to be abused in the paradise. "none" was my answer, "he would never allow that to happen", then he asked "so how can Jesus be ruling over the congregations of JW's today and allowing all the child abuse?"

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Brooklyn news on sending the elderly packing

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johnny the bethelite on this program talks about the older bethelites being targeted by watchtower.they are getting rid of those at bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former governing body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the watchtower organization.. the reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia.

they include persons such as sister henschel whose husband had been a watchtower president and marian sydlik whose parents are long dead.. https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny .

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Johnny the Bethelite on this program talks about the Older Bethelites being targeted by Watchtower.They are getting rid of those at Bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former Governing Body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the Watchtower organization.

The reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia. They include persons such as sister Henschel whose husband had been a Watchtower President and Marian Sydlik whose parents are long dead.

https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny

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Please help with Rama Singh's letter

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hello could someone please help me with the actual letter that rama singh wrote asking wt to retract and apologise for misquoting him in the january 2015 awake?

i am giving it to the elders in my former congregation as part of my farewell letter.

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Thanks for all your help. We are in Africa so I am blocked from some of the sites. I will contact Paul.

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Please help with Rama Singh's letter

by I am a Bible Student in

hello could someone please help me with the actual letter that rama singh wrote asking wt to retract and apologise for misquoting him in the january 2015 awake?

i am giving it to the elders in my former congregation as part of my farewell letter.

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Hello Could someone please help me with the actual letter that Rama Singh wrote asking WT to retract and apologise for misquoting him in the January 2015 Awake? I am giving it to the elders in my former congregation as part of my farewell letter.

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South Africa Zone Visit

by wifibandit in

did anyone here attend?

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/40cjvn/the_special_streaming_talk/.

per this bootleg audio (2nd part) the "headquarters representatives" were robert ciranko, a helper to the writing committee of the governing body and vaughn guy, a member of the australasia branch committee..

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Thanks for the link. This is the first zone visit I have missed. Just couldn't face the traffic or the brothers.

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Bethel layoffs of oldies

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is this true?

has anyone heard of it?

saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

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Is this true? Has anyone heard of it? Saw it on my facebook.

"JAN. 6 BETHEL UPDATE 108 ELDERLY BETHELITES GETTING THE BOOT.

Brooklyn, NY. A Bethel insider reports a closed meeting was held at the World Headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses last night and announced the releasing of 108 elderly Bethelites. Many of these longtime, full-time volunteer workers who committed their lives to"Jehovah's Organization" may be facing homelessness. Most of these Older Jehovah's Witnesses are of the "Anointed Class".
It was suggested in this meeting that the elderly Witnesses may be able to get help and support from the congregations in their hometowns. Many of the older ones were never on Social Security and are being encouraged to apply for Social Security Disability."

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New definition of lying

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the watchtower no 1 for 2016, entitled 'why be honest', has this definition of lying on page 5:.

"saying something false to someone who is entitled to know the truth.".

so if i tell my husband an untruth, i.e.

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wifibandit Thanks for these quotes. I was baptised in 1987 and can't believe that I never picked up these points. And I did read all the publications!

When a religion becomes Pharisaical, even something as black and white as lying is governed by many rules.

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Certain lies are acceptable per Watchtower. Where can I find that?

by FatFreek 2005 in

watchtower has defined certain circumstances where it's permissible to withhold certain facts, even telling an untruth.

like some outsider, or enemy, may not be deserving to know certain factual answers.. where can i find such quotations?.

len.

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See the new definition of lying on page 5 of the 2016 WT no 1:

"Saying something false to someone who is entitled to know the truth."

So the converse is also true. It is not a lie if you say something false to someone who is not entitled to know the truth.

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New definition of lying

by I am a Bible Student in

the watchtower no 1 for 2016, entitled 'why be honest', has this definition of lying on page 5:.

"saying something false to someone who is entitled to know the truth.".

so if i tell my husband an untruth, i.e.

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The Watchtower no 1 for 2016, entitled 'Why be honest', has this definition of lying on page 5:

"Saying something false to someone who is entitled to know the truth."

So if I tell my husband an untruth, i.e. I didn't buy that dress whereas I did buy it, it would be a lie as he is entitled to know where it came from especially if it was his money. But I could tell someone else I didn't buy that dress whereas I did buy it, and it would NOT be a lie as they were not entitled to know where it came from. Same dress, same words but one is a lie and the other isn't a lie depending on whom I tell it to.

So that is how the organization justifies certain things they do. We publishers are told that no known pedophile may have responsibilities in the congregation and that isn't a lie since we are not entitled to know the truth, being only publishers. And the Royal Commission is not entitled to know the inner workings of the organization, so any untruths told to them were not untruths at all as per the above definition.